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Post by sargassosea on Nov 3, 2009 18:01:48 GMT -5
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Post by xara on Nov 3, 2009 18:14:46 GMT -5
My mom is vegetarian. I am almost but am allergic to most of the non meat protein sources so I eat some meat but not that much just because I don't like it all that much.
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Post by Hillary on Nov 3, 2009 18:18:45 GMT -5
Great post--and I, too, can poke holes in the meat-eating-makes you fat, because I've been vegetarian for almost 10 years and am overweight.
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Post by jeb on Nov 3, 2009 19:01:38 GMT -5
Thanks for this post, Tapati. I always find it interesting as to why folks do what they do. I quit eating meat when I was a follower of Dr. Bhagat Thind, the teacher I've mentioned on another post. Actually it was a few years after that but I haven't had meat or fowl since 1974. I didn't eat fish until about 10 years ago but I've always eaten dairy products and eggs. There's a special name for someone like me (I mean besides crazy, eh? ) but I can never remember what it is. Of course I always get the 'wazzamadaU' when folks find out I don't eat meat but now-a-days I just say . . . 'Because I don't want too, okay?' And I'm living proof that you can be a chunky vegetarian. I just tell folks I'm carrying twins. ;D Anyway, thanks again. I've been enjoying all the posts and especially yours. Y'all be treating yourselves goodly, eh? John
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Post by lattelaura on Nov 3, 2009 19:45:29 GMT -5
For some reason vegetarianism was a particular thing that the leader of my "cult-like" church would focus on. He would rail against and mock those who chose not to eat meat. I guess he thought not eating meat was very unbiblical but I still don't understand why he was so fixated on that particular topic. What does it really matter if someone want to be a vegetarian?
I've seen pictures of a couple of your vegetarian meals, Tapati and they look yummy. I really need to learn more about cooking this way as I don't agree with the way animals are raised and slaughtered by most sources.
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Post by visualsyntax on Nov 3, 2009 20:48:55 GMT -5
That Top Chef challenge made me giggle.
I'd love to eat less meat and I've been trying to implement more vegetarian meals in my diet. It's hard to do!
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Post by rosa on Nov 3, 2009 21:42:58 GMT -5
Free vegan and vegetarian food is pretty much my only exposure to Krsna followers, so it's really interesting to hear about that from the inside too.
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Post by km on Nov 3, 2009 23:36:19 GMT -5
That Top Chef challenge made me giggle. I'd love to eat less meat and I've been trying to implement more vegetarian meals in my diet. It's hard to do! Try Mark Bittman's book, How to Cook Everything Vegetarian. Changed my life, seriously. Written by a non-vegetarian. And I still eat meat, but far far less.
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Post by The Anonymouse on Nov 3, 2009 23:48:56 GMT -5
I didn't eat fish until about 10 years ago but I've always eaten dairy products and eggs. There's a special name for someone like me (I mean besides crazy, eh? ) but I can never remember what it is.[ /quote] Pescetarian. I was raised very secular for the most part - atheist father and nominally Unitarian mother, and I've been a vegetarian for over 30 years, for the same reasons Tapati wrote about. There are ethical commitments that have nothing to do with religion. :-) I also believe that it isn't my business to tell someone else that they can't eat meat. But I would like to see factory farms replaced by a more humane method.
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Post by kisekileia on Nov 3, 2009 23:49:44 GMT -5
Thank you so much for mentioning people who have to eat meat for medical reasons. I really appreciate having that acknowledged.
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Post by tapati on Nov 4, 2009 0:23:53 GMT -5
My mom is vegetarian. I am almost but am allergic to most of the non meat protein sources so I eat some meat but not that much just because I don't like it all that much. That is challenging! I have a couple of friends who started eating meat again after realizing they were allergic to soy. They just felt there was not enough variety in their diet without it--one of them was also lactose intolerant. One strategy if you don't like meat itself much is to utilize the broth, which has a great deal of the protein. Maybe others could eat most of the meat while you save the broth for yourself.
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Post by tapati on Nov 4, 2009 0:25:17 GMT -5
Great post--and I, too, can poke holes in the meat-eating-makes you fat, because I've been vegetarian for almost 10 years and am overweight. There have been some show downs as fat people have picketed PETA in turn and tried to get them to stop this marketing ploy. why alienate your fat vegetarian allies? Or imply that fat people can't be sexy, which is what they did in one campaign.
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Post by tapati on Nov 4, 2009 0:26:44 GMT -5
Thanks for this post, Tapati. I always find it interesting as to why folks do what they do. I quit eating meat when I was a follower of Dr. Bhagat Thind, the teacher I've mentioned on another post. Actually it was a few years after that but I haven't had meat or fowl since 1974. I didn't eat fish until about 10 years ago but I've always eaten dairy products and eggs. There's a special name for someone like me (I mean besides crazy, eh? ) but I can never remember what it is. Of course I always get the 'wazzamadaU' when folks find out I don't eat meat but now-a-days I just say . . . 'Because I don't want too, okay?' And I'm living proof that you can be a chunky vegetarian. I just tell folks I'm carrying twins. ;D Anyway, thanks again. I've been enjoying all the posts and especially yours. Y'all be treating yourselves goodly, eh? John Thank you, John! I think pescaterian is the term you're looking for.
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Post by tapati on Nov 4, 2009 0:30:08 GMT -5
For some reason vegetarianism was a particular thing that the leader of my "cult-like" church would focus on. He would rail against and mock those who chose not to eat meat. I guess he thought not eating meat was very unbiblical but I still don't understand why he was so fixated on that particular topic. What does it really matter if someone want to be a vegetarian? I've seen pictures of a couple of your vegetarian meals, Tapati and they look yummy. I really need to learn more about cooking this way as I don't agree with the way animals are raised and slaughtered by most sources. My own family had a fit when I became a vegetarian, like I was betraying the Midwestern way of life or something. They had cattle on their farm, not a lot but they always had plenty of beef in their freezer. Grandpa used to take me to cattle auctions when I was growing up. Grandma was always melodramatic about how she was going to feed me when I visited--even ten years and more after I'd been a vegetarian. Mom took me to a doctor who told me my internal organs would be consumed to meet my protein needs--strangely she didn't worry when I was on starvation diets and that was actually true! I don't know what the panic is but I eat dairy so she didn't need to worry at all, it was quite easy to get my protein needs met without even knowing very much. One might need a bit more research before going vegan but it can still be done. <shrugs> some people are just very threatened instead of thinking, cool, more meat for me!
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Post by tapati on Nov 4, 2009 0:34:39 GMT -5
That Top Chef challenge made me giggle. I'd love to eat less meat and I've been trying to implement more vegetarian meals in my diet. It's hard to do! Top Chef was so funny--he looked right at the judges and told them the leeks were his protein! And his mom was vegan! I'm sure she had some thing to say after the show! It was hard at first to cook vegetarian simply because I didn't know how! Now I have a long list of dishes I regularly cook so it's quite easy and natural. On my forum for ex-Hare Krishna devotees we have a thread for recipes you might find helpful: www.gaudiya-repercussions.com/index.php?showtopic=63
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Post by tapati on Nov 4, 2009 0:36:31 GMT -5
Free vegan and vegetarian food is pretty much my only exposure to Krsna followers, so it's really interesting to hear about that from the inside too. Since we offered our food to Krishna, we believed that it would purify people to eat it so it was a good preaching tool. I am glad at least that hungry people knew there would always be the Sunday Feast and we regularly had down and out people show up to take advantage of this. They could get a couple of plates there and even take a little home if we had enough.
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Post by tapati on Nov 4, 2009 0:36:56 GMT -5
That Top Chef challenge made me giggle. I'd love to eat less meat and I've been trying to implement more vegetarian meals in my diet. It's hard to do! Try Mark Bittman's book, How to Cook Everything Vegetarian. Changed my life, seriously. Written by a non-vegetarian. And I still eat meat, but far far less. Good book!
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Post by tapati on Nov 4, 2009 0:38:47 GMT -5
I didn't eat fish until about 10 years ago but I've always eaten dairy products and eggs. There's a special name for someone like me (I mean besides crazy, eh? ) but I can never remember what it is.[ /quote] Pescetarian. I was raised very secular for the most part - atheist father and nominally Unitarian mother, and I've been a vegetarian for over 30 years, for the same reasons Tapati wrote about. There are ethical commitments that have nothing to do with religion. :-) I also believe that it isn't my business to tell someone else that they can't eat meat. But I would like to see factory farms replaced by a more humane method. I would too but first we have to reduce our consumption as a society! Humane methods would never keep up with the current demand and meat would become very, very expensive. Our health and our planet are crying out for people to reduce the amount of meat they eat.
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Post by tapati on Nov 4, 2009 0:39:23 GMT -5
Thank you so much for mentioning people who have to eat meat for medical reasons. I really appreciate having that acknowledged. Thank you for reminding me that not everyone can go full on vegetarian!
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Post by tapati on Nov 4, 2009 0:39:52 GMT -5
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Post by asteli on Nov 4, 2009 1:01:08 GMT -5
We'd probably eat more vegetarian, but a) I try to avoid soy. I have 3 sons & I've heard enough about the possible effect of soy on endocrine systems to make me use very, very little of it and b) My husband can't eat much fiber. Anything with a high fiber content puts him out of commission for the next day. I'd love to find low fiber, high protein alternatives to meat, but the only thing I've found that fits that are eggs. It really sucks, 'cause I have a wonderful recipe for homemade baked beans & I bet I could find lots of yummy recipes for similar types of veggies, but the fiber make them pointless.
I kind of admire vegetarians, especially those who can do it & be healthy(1 of my husbands friends was visibly unhealthy), but vegans concern me a bit, especially those who refuse to eat anything else even when they're pregnant and craving non-vegan foods.
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Post by jadehawk on Nov 4, 2009 1:24:49 GMT -5
it's not too difficult for a healthy person to eat well as a vegetarian, but vegan can be difficult without the right knowledge. all the vegans I know look sort of.... translucent... which doesn't seem healthy to me.
personally I wouldn't mind reducing the meat I eat to just the meat we get from other people's hunting trips. it tastes better than farmed food, and has a much lower environmental impact.
can't give up on meat entirely though, since I tend to bouts of Iron deficiency anemia, and no amount of spinach has ever helped with that.
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Post by tapati on Nov 4, 2009 1:26:10 GMT -5
We'd probably eat more vegetarian, but a) I try to avoid soy. I have 3 sons & I've heard enough about the possible effect of soy on endocrine systems to make me use very, very little of it and b) My husband can't eat much fiber. Anything with a high fiber content puts him out of commission for the next day. I'd love to find low fiber, high protein alternatives to meat, but the only thing I've found that fits that are eggs. It really sucks, 'cause I have a wonderful recipe for homemade baked beans & I bet I could find lots of yummy recipes for similar types of veggies, but the fiber make them pointless. I kind of admire vegetarians, especially those who can do it & be healthy(1 of my husbands friends was visibly unhealthy), but vegans concern me a bit, especially those who refuse to eat anything else even when they're pregnant and craving non-vegan foods. Not dealing well with fiber is a challenge...try non-fat yogurt in savory dishes, in India and the Middle East it is used that way a lot. Tzatziki and so on. You can use it as the binder in a white rice based salad too, and as a marinade for veggies. Just put a small amount of beans in the salad where a vegetarian might put twice as many, and you might not go over the fiber quota for the day. There are also good low fat cheeses and low fat milk can be used in veggie soups. Seitan (from wheat gluten) can be used instead of soy and I make great burgers out of lentils and brown rice (good for the kids). Miso and tempeh are the best soy choices if you're concerned about the hormonal effects. Soy is fine as long as it's not OVERdone. Some families go overboard and have it three different ways in one day, nearly every day. The thing is, in Western diets there is often too much meat eaten per meal, and per day, when compared to more optimal diets around the world. So one doesn't even need to do meatless meals, but rather reduce the portions a bit. So maybe eggs without bacon for breakfast, fish with lunch, and a little meat in a stew for dinner--plenty of protein there.
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Post by arietty on Nov 4, 2009 1:28:28 GMT -5
This thread is making me hungry.
I was a strict vegetarian for 10 years but like Tapati's friends I am no longer one. Still go weeks without eating meat though.
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Post by The Anonymouse on Nov 4, 2009 3:04:00 GMT -5
I would too but first we have to reduce our consumption as a society! Humane methods would never keep up with the current demand and meat would become very, very expensive. Our health and our planet are crying out for people to reduce the amount of meat they eat. I agree. And it would automatically reduce consumption if it became more expensive... and I'll stop now before this starts looking like the Evil Vegan Overlord Manifesto. ;D
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