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Post by hopewell on Jul 27, 2009 15:19:31 GMT -5
Irene Specer's Shattered Dreams--it IS about a version of FLDS, but the epilogue was so on point for Quiverfull [and just about any cultish group].
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Post by debd on Aug 3, 2009 15:58:57 GMT -5
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Post by grandmalou on Aug 12, 2009 10:13:12 GMT -5
The Spanking Room by William Coburn ACK! I just watched a program on CTN (Christian Television Network), an interview with a man who had been raised by a JW mother, and Congregationalist? father. This man's story sounded so much like what a lot of QF/P families have been through! He had so much abuse growing up, the 'grandmother heart' in me wanted to pick up the little boy he once was, and rock him and dry his tears! If y'all are interested in watching his interview, it will air again on CTN at 4 PM Central time, on the Herman and Sharron Bailey program, which is sometimes listed as "Coffee Club Live". One incident he remembered about his abuse, which actually made him choose the name of this book, was that the congregation once passed a microphone to everyone in the chairs, and when it came to him, who was 4 years old at the time, he said "Bye, bye" into it and passed it on. And his mother jerked him up by his hair and dragged him into the women's bathroom and wailed on his behind for what seemed, to him, forever. Screaming at him how wicked he was, etc. Later the church (Kingdom Hall) was remodeled, and they actually built a bigger room on next to the bathrooms, and called it the "Spanking Room", with the pastor? asking women what they would like to see in there for use in "punishing their problems"...rolled up newspapers, etc. One woman said she tried everything, and NOTHING seemed strong enough for "beating her children's butts with" so someone else suggested getting one of the men to go do it for her. The response to that was "This is unacceptable...we can't have MEN being called away from their important work to do this woman's jobs"! Later, when this young man was about 10, he came across a very obvious discrepancy between what the JW's taught, and what it said in the Bible. When he tried to point this out to his mother, he said she got this horrible glassy-eyed look on her face, and seemed to look straight through him, which totally creeped him out.
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Post by chloe on Aug 14, 2009 0:18:19 GMT -5
I think Vykie's mentioned this one in various posts, but I don't see it included under this topic: Quiverfull:Inside the Christian Patriarchy Movement by Kathryn Joyce. Or is it under another topic somewhere?
I just finished it, and it has some weaknesses, but I like the historical research she provides into the movement as a whole. The sections on political influences, especially globally, are disturbing, very much invoking a kind of Handmaid's Tale dystopian feel.
Oh, and have any of you read The Chosen by Chaim Potek? It's on lots of summer reading lists in high schools, and it deals with patriarchy among Hasidim in New York during World War II. It's fiction, but a really compelling book that might broaden perspectives on patriarchy. And if you read it as a kid, like I did, it's well worth picking up again.
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Post by xara on Oct 12, 2009 17:34:11 GMT -5
This is fiction, but I think it is a good book for women and self esteem:
"By the Sword" by Meredes Lackey. I have recently reread it and it just makes a lot of really good points in addition to being a really good story. Actually any of her Valdemar series is really good. I first read them in college and they really made a strong positive impression on me and my self esteem.
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Post by km on Oct 20, 2009 17:05:29 GMT -5
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Post by cindy on Jun 23, 2010 8:07:41 GMT -5
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Post by jillrhudybarrett on Jun 30, 2010 10:19:31 GMT -5
I've read a LOT about the topics that concern this group, and the best, most insightful book by a mile was "Why Does He Do That? Inside the Minds of Angry and Controlling Men" by Lundy Bancroft. For those of us whose husbands just changed from using religion to beat us to using the courts to beat us, there is an entire chapter on this subject. "The Batterer As Parent" is also phenomenal. www.amazon.com/Why-Does-He-That-Controlling/dp/0425191656/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1277911047&sr=8-1If you've ever wondered why all of our ex-husbands seem to be the same guy, only Bancroft managed to explain it to me! Jill
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