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Post by dangermom on Jun 18, 2010 19:37:36 GMT -5
They want perfection. Perfection is promised. Nobody is perfect, though. It's like that book "How To Be A Perfect Person In Just Three Days", if anyone's read that back when they were growing up. I loved that book! I gave it to my daughter to read recently. I too am fascinated by Cecelia and her 'perfect' life, can't wait for the next chapter. OK, so she uses ATI, but how is that supposed to result in Stepford children? Are we back to the Pearls? I agree that the idea of perfect children is creepy, but I can see how it happens too. We live in a society where the idea of perfection is sold to us all the time, and maybe ATI sells the idea of matching perfect children. If you're taught that children are supposed to be that way if you're parenting them correctly, then the inevitable misbehavior just shows you need more ATI and more submission, is that it?
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Post by usotsuki on Jun 18, 2010 20:20:57 GMT -5
Just sitting around motionlessly, sipping weak tea, eh?
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Post by kc on Jun 18, 2010 20:37:48 GMT -5
This is the first time I've posted; my sister is Wordgazer, someone who provides a scriptural Egalitarian Christian approach to her posts. She told me about the Quiverfull movement, which to someone from a small family of two kids seemed pretty weird. I have no other connection or first hand knowledge with this movement other than suspecting that a number of families I serve as a Youth Services librarian in conservative rural Idaho are involved with it. I'm looking forward to reading the end of this story, finding out when you realized that you were in an abusive/controlling relationship, and how you came to understand that you were a good/intelligent/competent person who could make up her own mind, and be in control of her own life, not Cecilia, not your husband, and certainly not anyone in this abusive patriarchal movement. Excellent post and compelling story. Since you are on this forum, I know you got out. I'm so glad you did. Congratulations!! Good for you!!!
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Post by Sierra on Jun 18, 2010 20:51:17 GMT -5
They want perfection. Perfection is promised. Nobody is perfect, though. It's like that book "How To Be A Perfect Person In Just Three Days", if anyone's read that back when they were growing up. What I object to is the idea that what they're selling is perfection. That obedience and blind servitude are somehow ideal. Like margybargy said, when I see children like that, I see the worst kind of imperfection: failure to thrive.
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Post by dangermom on Jun 18, 2010 20:59:59 GMT -5
I'm interested in the husband's perspective in this story too. I feel bad for him, like he's kind of going "I like you the way you are and I married you, not this Cecelia woman. Stop beating yourself up about this!" I want to know more about what he was thinking.
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Post by enlightenmentgirl on Jun 18, 2010 22:14:42 GMT -5
The connection many readers have noted to Amway-style recruitment strategies and these extreme christians is not necessarily a coincidence. Here's a link to an article about Amway's connections to Christian Dominionist groups. www.talk2action.org/story/2007/8/23/142836/277
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Post by krwordgazer on Jun 20, 2010 1:13:43 GMT -5
This is the first time I've posted; my sister is Wordgazer, someone who provides a scriptural Egalitarian Christian approach to her posts. She told me about the Quiverfull movement, which to someone from a small family of two kids seemed pretty weird. I have no other connection or first hand knowledge with this movement other than suspecting that a number of families I serve as a Youth Services librarian in conservative rural Idaho are involved with it. I'm looking forward to reading the end of this story, finding out when you realized that you were in an abusive/controlling relationship, and how you came to understand that you were a good/intelligent/competent person who could make up her own mind, and be in control of her own life, not Cecilia, not your husband, and certainly not anyone in this abusive patriarchal movement. Excellent post and compelling story. Since you are on this forum, I know you got out. I'm so glad you did. Congratulations!! Good for you!!! Well, hi, KC! What a pleasant surprise! I know you've been reading the blog for a while. Welcome to the forum! Cecilia, a lot of this sounds so familiar, with regards to a certain family that KC and I encountered when we were still living at home. They presented themselves as so perfect, we wished our own family were just like them. It turned out quite toxic in the end. They weren't ATI, but they certainly had a big role in moving both of us towards the extreme side of charismatic/fundamentalist Christianity.
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Post by cdg on Jun 20, 2010 16:54:42 GMT -5
Just joined the forum to say that I read the whole story so far at once, and I'm on the edge of my seat!! Hope we don't have to wait much longer!
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Post by ShellyC on Jun 24, 2010 16:06:56 GMT -5
Thanks ladies for your thoughts/encouragment. My husband has handled all my "ordeals" really well. He is my forever soul-mate for sure! We are doing real good nowadays. Still loving the Lord, but in a different sort of NON-religious way. If anyone would like to facebook me..I am on daily. I am not sure if there is a facebook post here where we can add each other. Here is my facebook link. www.facebook.com/home.php#!/profile.php?id=655142409
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