Post by cindy on Apr 24, 2009 22:57:18 GMT -5
Hey there,
I was heavily involved in a Bill Gothard oriented church then ended up at Doug Phillips' church (where he attended for about a year or two before he went off to start his own local church in San Antonio). I'm from PA, lived in Maryland, spent 7 years in Texas but now live in Detroit where we are very happy.
Though the reasoning doesn't seem to work that way for these ideologues, God didn't open my womb long enough to give me a live birth... I've been married 19 years. So I have been an outcast in this group, labelled a feminist.
I've been pretty vocal about the trappings of this movement and gave a workshop (which you can watch on video) at an apologetics conference about a year ago and got into all kinds of trouble for being critical of some of the Baptists who support patriarchy, the group who provided the facilities for the conference where I spoke.
undermuchgrace.blogspot.com/search/label/Patriarchy%20Video
I"m glad Vyckie and Laura are out of this quivering mess, though I kept the baby and not the bathwater. (What little I had.... Never having babies, the bathwater was not as difficult to discard...) I'd naturally be happier if they'd kept the baby, but that's between them and God. He'll work it out just as He works it all out with all of us.
I don't have much time to participate but hope to check in and be supportive.
The rethinking of one's religious beliefs is always messy but a worthwhile pursuit. Given all that's gone on in Vyckie's and Laura's lives, I'm glad that they are alive and well and sorting things out. There is so much sorting to be done after exiting theses groups...
I write quite a bit about spiritual abuse, something I believe the whole Quiverfull thing is, and cultic is just another synonym for spiritual abuse.
I was heavily involved in a Bill Gothard oriented church then ended up at Doug Phillips' church (where he attended for about a year or two before he went off to start his own local church in San Antonio). I'm from PA, lived in Maryland, spent 7 years in Texas but now live in Detroit where we are very happy.
Though the reasoning doesn't seem to work that way for these ideologues, God didn't open my womb long enough to give me a live birth... I've been married 19 years. So I have been an outcast in this group, labelled a feminist.
I've been pretty vocal about the trappings of this movement and gave a workshop (which you can watch on video) at an apologetics conference about a year ago and got into all kinds of trouble for being critical of some of the Baptists who support patriarchy, the group who provided the facilities for the conference where I spoke.
undermuchgrace.blogspot.com/search/label/Patriarchy%20Video
I"m glad Vyckie and Laura are out of this quivering mess, though I kept the baby and not the bathwater. (What little I had.... Never having babies, the bathwater was not as difficult to discard...) I'd naturally be happier if they'd kept the baby, but that's between them and God. He'll work it out just as He works it all out with all of us.
I don't have much time to participate but hope to check in and be supportive.
The rethinking of one's religious beliefs is always messy but a worthwhile pursuit. Given all that's gone on in Vyckie's and Laura's lives, I'm glad that they are alive and well and sorting things out. There is so much sorting to be done after exiting theses groups...
I write quite a bit about spiritual abuse, something I believe the whole Quiverfull thing is, and cultic is just another synonym for spiritual abuse.