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Post by cherylannhannah on May 28, 2010 1:40:39 GMT -5
Hi Everyone! Jill Rhudy told me about this board and I decided to join because I was looking for a place to hash out a few things. I am a former Biblewife and moderated that particular yahoo group for a few years after Jill handed over the baton.
I am 49 years old, have 12 children aged 27 down to almost 5, plus 5 grandchildren thus far. I was married to an abusive man that I worked very hard to love and honor despite his sociopathic ways. Our marriage ended formally a year ago on March 6 and I never knew that happiness in life consisted of being away from my ex.
Still a believer. I just don't look very conventional any more, if I ever did. More to say but I am whacked and need some sleep.
Cheryl
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Post by arietty on May 28, 2010 2:52:48 GMT -5
Hello Cheryl and welcome to NLQ! I hope you get a chance to post! I have 8 kids and boy can I relate to your words, "I never knew that happiness in life consisted of being away from my ex." That happiness kept me going through all kinds of hardships. I used to remind myself in my darkest hours that it is better to be depressed than oppressed and that was always an uplifting thought!
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Post by jadehawk on May 28, 2010 4:21:37 GMT -5
welcome to NLQ, and I hope you'll find the conversations and articles here helpful.
Now, I myself am pretty much the exact opposite of you (28, unbeliever, no children and probably will never have any), and there's others like me here, but don't let that scare you away. There's many believers and former QF'ers (even some current ones, sort of), and there's something for everybody here :-)
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Post by Vyckie D. Garrison on May 28, 2010 11:34:53 GMT -5
Cheryl ~ welcome to No Longer Quivering! I'm pretty sure that I had quit reading Biblewives by the time you took over as moderator ~ but I do remember seeing you on that group. This is really amazing because when I first started NLQ, I honestly didn't think that I would encounter so many other women who have left this philosophy and way of life. When I was being interviewed on the phone by Kathryn Joyce, I told her that I was pretty sure that women didn't leave because it would mean giving up their god ~ and that's a very scary thing. I've been pleasantly surprised to discover that there are others who have left ~ and not all of them become atheists. I'm anxious to hear more of your story ~ and I am sure you'll find the community here to be extremely supportive and encouraging. Just being able to say, "here's what happened to me and how I felt about it" and then receiving feedback from others who have BTDT ~ saying, "Me too!" ~ Wow ~ it is so validating and such a relief.
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Post by jillrhudybarrett on May 28, 2010 14:59:57 GMT -5
Thrilled to see you Cheryl, and one of the only good things about the whole mess we got ourselves into was that we found each other, and we have been fast friends for all these years, even though you're in Canada and I'm in the states and we have never met. Jill
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Post by nikita on May 28, 2010 17:08:50 GMT -5
Welcome Cheryl! I hope you'll feel free enough to share some of your experiences with us. We are a diverse and lively bunch and hope to hear more from you as well. Happy Memorial Day weekend!! With so many kids I imagine it is going to be a busy one.
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Post by sargassosea on May 28, 2010 17:41:18 GMT -5
Welcome, Cheryl!
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Post by xara on May 28, 2010 18:14:32 GMT -5
Welcome.
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Post by cherylannhannah on May 29, 2010 2:40:32 GMT -5
Thanks to everyone for your kind welcomes. I haven't spent a lot of time on discussion boards so it will take me a little bit of time to figure out what is happening here. I would also like to spend some time getting to know people and looking at what has been discussed before I comment extensively. The coming week or two should find me with some time to do just that.
I haven't had a lot of time in the recent past to do anything by way of writing. Part of it was because of what all I had to process and part of it was sheer survival. However, I have been feeling the need of late to spend some time in writing and I think this is where I want to do some of it.
Best regards, Cheryl
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Post by dangermom on May 29, 2010 8:55:39 GMT -5
Hello there Cheryl
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Post by humbletigger on May 30, 2010 11:51:14 GMT -5
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Post by quiverof8 on Jun 1, 2010 21:25:06 GMT -5
I came across this site by accident. I think your post "former Bible wife" says a lot. Its sad, you are missing what the Bible does say. Yes, it does include being quiverful as well as head covering and submission. Submission is NOT being a door mat or a servant. Submission is to be given willingly by the wife, not demanded by the husband. Children are a BLESSING. If the Lord wanted to bless you with health , wealth etc I doubt one of you would turn it down. Yet you presume to know better than the Lord or his written word? I feel sorry for all of you as you will be held accountable for those you are leading astray with this board. If you choose to live that way that is your choice. However you cross a line when you encourage other women to do the same. Mom of 8 blessings who would gladly accept more
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Post by ambrosia on Jun 1, 2010 21:45:48 GMT -5
quiverof8 said: I am very pleased for you if you have indeed found happiness and fulfillment in the life you have chosen. However I hope you are not implying that the experiences of those whose have not been like yours are somehow trivial or inauthentic. I also wish to point out that "the Lord" and his written word don't mean a lot to many of the people here. Some have retained their faith, others have not, so your argument from authority won't be as overwhelming as you seem to think it will.
I know nothing about you except this one post, but be assured that should your world ever collapse in flames as has happened to others here, you would find comfort. You know, that "judge not" stuff. I believe it's in some religious book.
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Post by krwordgazer on Jun 1, 2010 23:05:27 GMT -5
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Post by nikita on Jun 1, 2010 23:56:06 GMT -5
Quiverof8 seems to have signed up and posted for the express purpose of shaking off the dust of her feet at us.
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Post by coleslaw on Jun 2, 2010 17:41:05 GMT -5
. . . Children are a BLESSING. If the Lord wanted to bless you with health , wealth etc I doubt one of you would turn it down. Health is not something that comes in discrete units that can be counted, like children, so I don't think that's a useful comparison. If person A is perfectly healthy, there is no way person B can be twice as perfectly healthy. So while it's true most people aren't likely to turn down the blessing of good health, it's not something you keep adding to. Wealth, of course, is a different story. No matter how much of it you have, someone can be twice as wealthy, at least in theory. But would everyone be happy with wealth? I think managing a large fortune would be a lot of work. If you don't know how to do it yourself, you have to hire people to do it, which means you have to spend time in the hiring process, and overseeing them, and that's a job. Then there are people who would want you to donate your money for charitable purposes, and you would probably want to do that, but you'd need to know they were legitimate charities and not rip-offs. Investigating them is more work. Then you have the worry of whether your friends like you for yourself or for your money. And then, when it comes right down to it, once you have a home and food and transportation and clothes and health care and some extra for fun and frivolity, how much more fun is having a lot of money? I think by time you buy the fifth car or vacation home, the thrill has kind of worn off. I think the ideal is to have enough money that you never have to violate your principals to get more, and I suspect there are multi-billionaires that will never have that much and poor people that do. I guess I just don't follow the line of reasoning that says if one of something makes you happy, two will make you twice as happy, and so forth. Sometimes enough is enough.
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Post by Ex-Adriel on Jun 2, 2010 18:16:36 GMT -5
I came across this site by accident... Yet you presume to know better than the Lord or his written word? I feel sorry for all of you as you will be held accountable for those you are leading astray with this board. If you choose to live that way that is your choice. However you cross a line when you encourage other women to do the same. Yep - I feel pretty damn presumptious talking about my own personal experience. I always felt as a child that the smart people learn from other people's experiences, and the slightly less bright candles have to learn by burning their own hands. I'm perfectly willing to stand here as a signboard and say - "this is something that can happen, please watch out." If when I die, I am judged solely by what goes on inside this forum, I think I'll be ok. Until then, feel glad that you have rebuked the unbelievers, and shaken off the dust, and stand firm in your convictions until the ground opens up beneath you. If you would like assistance at that point, I bet we'll still be here.
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Post by Hillary on Jun 12, 2010 11:16:33 GMT -5
Welcome, Cheryl. As the oldest daughter in a family of eleven children, I'm looking forward to hearing your story.
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