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Post by passionfruit on May 28, 2009 15:40:39 GMT -5
Hi, I came across the NLQ blog, which I found (interestingly enough) through Fundies Say The Darnedest Things (FSTDT). Not because this site is fundie, but because there was comment that was left at the blog.
Anyhow, I thought I'd join to learn more about the Quiverfull movement and lifestyle. My knowledge is limited, but from what I've learned it seems a woman value based on her ability to reproduce. As black feminist this is disturbing to me. Also it seems that a woman's primary purpose in life to be only a wife and mother, nothing more.
As far as my religious beliefs go, I consider myself a humanist/deist. I used to be Christian who attended a Baptist church then later on a Pentecostal church, which normally fell on the fundamentalist side. Women were not allowed to wear pants, makeup, or jewelery. They teach didn't that women shouldn't work or pursue their own goals, but they did emphasize that women should fulfill their societal obligations. After I left officially left Christianity, which was the beginning of my sophomore year in college I began to explore my apparent feminist beliefs. So I dived into feminist literature, reading mostly bell hooks, Audre Lorde, Virginia Woolf and Alice Walker. Which made me realize I was a feminist. And now, I'm just learning about other religious beliefs and still exploring different kinds of feminism and how it has evolved.
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Post by rosa on May 28, 2009 17:24:15 GMT -5
Welcome to the boards, Passionfruit!
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Post by passionfruit on May 30, 2009 18:32:26 GMT -5
Thanks. ;D
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Post by grandmalou on May 30, 2009 19:02:39 GMT -5
Welcome, Passionfruit. Glad you came aboard!
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Post by AustinAvery on May 30, 2009 19:37:49 GMT -5
Passionfriut,
This is just my prejudice, but this place seems to be full of people whose intellect was just too big to fit in the narrowness of their surroundings--in this case theocratic surroundings. You seem a very good fit here.
BTW, in your readings have you come across Patricia J. Williams. Some of her books are tough to slog through, but she's insightful and often worth the slog. I recommend her if you've missed her work.
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Post by passionfruit on May 31, 2009 0:45:51 GMT -5
Unfortunately I haven't read anything Patricia J. Williams. I am familiar with critical race theory, though. I think I will check her out. Thanks for the recommendation.
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Post by grandmalou on May 31, 2009 7:13:51 GMT -5
Austinavery, good morning... I was thinking on your post to Passionfruit, where you said: "this place seems to be full of people whose intellect was just too big to fit in the narrowness of their surroundings--" and it made me think of that patriarch of all patriarchs...Archie Bunker! Not your post, but something he used to always say to poor Edith... "STIFLE!" LOL...we laughed at him, but oy vey, how typical of a controller, huh? Are you old enough to remember him? And poor Edith...since I was of the "feminazi persuasion" back then, I used to wonder why she didn't just walk in to where he sat in his chair on his dead behind and dump a beer in his lap... ;D
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Post by xara on May 31, 2009 14:34:30 GMT -5
Austinavery, good morning... I was thinking on your post to Passionfruit, where you said: "this place seems to be full of people whose intellect was just too big to fit in the narrowness of their surroundings--" and it made me think of that patriarch of all patriarchs...Archie Bunker! Not your post, but something he used to always say to poor Edith... "STIFLE!" LOL...we laughed at him, but oy vey, how typical of a controller, huh? Are you old enough to remember him? And poor Edith...since I was of the "feminazi persuasion" back then, I used to wonder why she didn't just walk in to where he sat in his chair on his dead behind and dump a beer in his lap... ;D I remember that show from when I was a kid. I always wondered why she didn't clock him with a cast iron skillet. He was just obnoxious. Seeing that sort of thing as a kid made me determined that I would either find someone who could and would be a full partner to me or I would live alone. I did NOT need a Lump In The Livingroom. ;D *Hugs*
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Post by xara on May 31, 2009 14:43:54 GMT -5
Hi, I came across the NLQ blog, which I found (interestingly enough) through Fundies Say The Darnedest Things (FSTDT). I also like FSTDT. Sometimes I laugh and sometimes I scream at the amazing amount of hatred, intolerance and ignorance that is quoted and commented on there. I haven't been reading it much lately though. Since I am working again, I am on the computer all day and don't want to spend much of my free time on it. And I like this site better because it is trying to build people up and help them be stronger healthier people.
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Post by grandmalou on May 31, 2009 17:08:41 GMT -5
Xara, AMEN to that! If those early sit coms did anything, they made people think how NOT to win friends and influence people, huh? LOL
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Post by AustinAvery on Jun 1, 2009 11:28:02 GMT -5
"STIFLE!" LOL...we laughed at him, but oy vey, how typical of a controller, huh? Are you old enough to remember him? And poor Edith...since I was of the "feminazi persuasion" back then, I used to wonder why she didn't just walk in to where he sat in his chair on his dead behind and dump a beer in his lap... ;D grandmalou, I do remember the show, but my parents didn't like it (they were more of the Smother Brothers Comedy Hour sort) so I did not see the show until years later in reruns. Some years after that, I was listening to an interview with Bill Cosby about the popularity of The Cosby Show, and someone made a comparison between that show and All In The Family. To my surprise, Cosby got a bit righteous about how poor the comparison was, but then he explained: The problem with that show, Cosby thought, was that after meeting all those varied and interesting characters and having his stereotypes debunked over all those years, Bunker remained an incorrigible sexist and a bigot. Interesting point. Perhaps it depends upon how one saw Archie Bunker, as a sort of a clown character who could become a canvas for exposing the nonsense of prejudices, or as an all-too-real representative of too many American men. p.s. I love the "oy vey" in your post--adds to your eclectic character: American Indian ancestry and now Yiddish thrown in!
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Post by grandmalou on Jun 1, 2009 15:38:31 GMT -5
Austinavery; You said: "p.s. I love the "oy vey" in your post--adds to your eclectic character: American Indian ancestry and now Yiddish thrown in!" Eclectic! I LOVE it! LOL My family used to always say we were Heinz...57 Varieties! Indeed, my paternal grandparents were from Berne, Switzerland...Grandpa spoke 5 languages fluently...French, German, Hebrew, Italian, and English. So when I asked my dad what our real ethnic background was, he just said "We are Swiss..." On the maternal side...Grandma was Grandpa's "Little Limey Bean"...his affectionate nickname for her, since her family came from England. He was Creek, Cherokee, and Irish...what a mix, huh?
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