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Post by runawaybride on Jan 17, 2010 8:53:37 GMT -5
Back in the bad old days, when I was buying into this stuff ( as a woman who only has borne one child successfully mind you) I went by Gardenratt on the forums, and got myself booted from Sisters in Christ by asking Momof9 if she wore underpants. ( Crotched garments, you know!  ) Since then my daughter has grown up, her father is no longer with us, as he took up with her very fertile babysitter. We haven't seen them for 4 years. I moved 500 miles away with her and am in a happy relationship with a Moderate Methodist. ;D I still struggle... " why ARENT you perfect?" I recently had a minor surgery on my now closed baby factory and the self-recrimination is a bit thick these days....as is my fascination with the lying posers known as The Duggars.... I need this place for balance to make sure I don't go over the deep end. Lexapro is my friend. ;D Howdy. |
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Post by grandmalou on Jan 17, 2010 9:11:42 GMT -5
Welcome, Runawaybride!
Loved your intro!
Never could figure out how come there is such a big deal in fundie circles about...shall I call it "crotch-dressing"?
Hey, crotch or no crotch, those biblical robes look like skirts to me.
Oy, vey!
;D ;D ;D
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Post by runawaybride on Jan 17, 2010 9:57:17 GMT -5
thats what I asked this woman ( A pundit in the internet Modesty Quiverfull Submissive woman world) and I got booted for my trouble.
I asked her if she wore underpants. ( She does.)
Frankly, I don't see the difference between underpants and outerpants if the issue is that the " crotch" is the rub when it comes to garments being male or female. ( no pun intended there)
Now, I like skirts in the summer, they are cooler. But from October - May, its Pants, baby. All Pants.
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Post by xara on Jan 17, 2010 11:08:34 GMT -5
Welcome Runawaybride.
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Post by philosophia on Jan 17, 2010 18:11:46 GMT -5
Back in the bad old days, when I was buying into this stuff ( as a woman who only has borne one child successfully mind you) I went by Gardenratt on the forums, and got myself booted from Sisters in Christ by asking Momof9 if she wore underpants. ( Crotched garments, you know! ) Since then my daughter has grown up, her father is no longer with us, as he took up with her very fertile babysitter. We haven't seen them for 4 years. I moved 500 miles away with her and am in a happy relationship with a Moderate Methodist. ;D I still struggle... " why ARENT you perfect?" I recently had a minor surgery on my now closed baby factory and the self-recrimination is a bit thick these days....as is my fascination with the lying posers known as The Duggars.... I need this place for balance to make sure I don't go over the deep end. Lexapro is my friend. ;D Howdy. Hey, nice to meet you! I find the Duggers amazing, because they believe EXACTLY what my church believed and they are doing all this TV hype. It fascinates me that they can justify doing both in their minds. I met Josh back when they were framing the house, before the networks got the idea to finish it for them and make them superstars. Whenever they are mentioned, I just feel like saying, "Oh, Pleeeeeeeze stop!"  |
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Post by AustinAvery on Jan 18, 2010 11:48:35 GMT -5
Totally confused here. I was raised "unchruched," so is there a Bible verse on garments with crotches???
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Post by dangermom on Jan 18, 2010 12:39:02 GMT -5
Yeah, me too. Huh?
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Post by runawaybride on Jan 20, 2010 9:01:16 GMT -5
One of the big arguments that the dresses only crowd - who tend to be quiverfull - use is that women are not to wear crotched garments. Well, underwear has a crotch!
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Post by dangermom on Jan 20, 2010 10:55:37 GMT -5
Oh, I see now. Thanks. What do they base that on? I mean, in Biblical times everyone was wearing robes, right? Men didn't have crotched garments either (unless they were Gauls or something, irrelevant). So I don't quite see what the logic is. How is that rule derived?
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Post by runawaybride on Jan 20, 2010 11:15:29 GMT -5
They believe the first pants was a garment worn by the priests who served near the Ark of the Covenent. They base this on a description of something worn wrapped around the loins .
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Post by jemand on Jan 20, 2010 12:47:07 GMT -5
They believe the first pants was a garment worn by the priests who served near the Ark of the Covenent. They base this on a description of something worn wrapped around the loins . i.e., underwear, right? |
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Post by runawaybride on Jan 23, 2010 8:54:52 GMT -5
yep.
Makes you wonder.. something about Scotchmen and kilts comes to mind... sorry, I have a twisted sense of humor ;D
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Post by madame on Jan 24, 2010 6:02:07 GMT -5
Some women solve that problem by wearing crotchless pantaloons.
Whether it's scriptural or not, I think I'll stick to wearing conventional underwear, thank you very much!
Mom of 9... oh dear, don't get me started...
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Post by jemand on Jan 24, 2010 15:52:51 GMT -5
Some women solve that problem by wearing crotchless pantaloons. Whether it's scriptural or not, I think I'll stick to wearing conventional underwear, thank you very much! Mom of 9... oh dear, don't get me started... how does one deal with a menstrual period wearing crotchless pantaloons? Perhaps I should stop asking questions. It seems women should have a greater natural right to crotch pants while men should get the dresses so they have space to dangle their dangly bits by which they communicate with god and apparently gain all their other natural relationship "headship"... |
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Post by xara on Jan 25, 2010 14:51:24 GMT -5
how does one deal with a menstrual period wearing crotchless pantaloons? Perhaps I should stop asking questions. It seems women should have a greater natural right to crotch pants while men should get the dresses so they have space to dangle their dangly bits by which they communicate with god and apparently gain all their other natural relationship "headship"... I have always wondered about this. Along with why do men's bicycles have the high crossbar. I know women's bikes are supposedly built to accommodate skirts and so they have the low bars but I would think that all a guy would need to do is stop suddenly a time or two and slip off the seat and it would be the end of the high bar. It doesn't make logical sense to me. As to the question of menstrual period, over the weekend I overheard a conversation where people were discussing nudist camps and that menstruating women weren't allowed to wear underwear at some of them. One was even a Christian nudist camp. All I can say on that one is "No thanks. I am keeping my pants." Oh, and the place I was at this weekend had lots of men running around in kilts. Many of whom were supposedly wearing them properly. I did not participate in any kilt checks but I know they usually happen at similar events. |
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Post by jemand on Jan 25, 2010 15:31:11 GMT -5
Along with why do men's bicycles have the high crossbar. I know women's bikes are supposedly built to accommodate skirts and so they have the low bars but I would think that all a guy would need to do is stop suddenly a time or two and slip off the seat and it would be the end of the high bar. It doesn't make logical sense to me. well, while boys would be more likely to do some *actual* damage, girls might *gasp* break their hymen! Which means they aren't virgins! They won't bleed on their wedding night! The little sluts! yea. But maybe it's the stated thing of skirts and yet the frame is stronger with the horizontal bar, and of course boys must have the strongest tools possible. |
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Post by dangermom on Jan 26, 2010 11:18:56 GMT -5
I have always wondered about this. I would assume they just wear panties at that time. But maybe that would be terrible, I don't know. How often does that really happen? |
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Post by Ex-Adriel on Apr 21, 2010 15:47:01 GMT -5
mmm, threadomancy! I just wanted to pop in and say that I lost my virginity to a man's bike and a mailbox (  ) when I was 8. Yes, it happens. It was the second most painful event of my life thus far (I haven't given birth, nor do I intend to, so I can't compare that... ). In addition, several of my male cousins have also had the 'unfortunate cowboy wreck' in their childhoods. I can tell it was painful for them too, because they turn white when I bring it up. ;D ps - we had a few skirts-and-pantalooners in some of our home-churches, but thank goodness we missed out on that particular fun in our family. |
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Post by rosa on Apr 25, 2010 23:53:14 GMT -5
Yeah, every guy I know who bikes a lot (and that's a lot, almost all our friends are bike commuters) has had that happen at least once. I had a boy-frame bike that was way too tall for me as a kid, and it happened to me a couple times - but really the memory is dwarfed by the giant wrecks I had because of dad "fixing" my brakes over and over instead of shelling out for new components.
The triangle frames really are stronger, though, plus if you ride them in a skirt they keep the skirt up and out of the chain better. Cracking a frame is pretty catastrophic - I had a u-frame crack one day, and at the world BMX Cup I went to, a guy we knew had an aluminum frame shatter into pointy shards when he landed after a jump. Way more terrifying than even the worst bump in the junk.
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